Post by beckrl on Aug 1, 2020 14:06:42 GMT
MOUNTAINS REPRESENT KINGDOMS
Mountains in ancient times were symbols for city states, kingdoms for most all sat upon a high mountain which served as a great earth defense. There are many times in the bible that expresses this thought as in Daniel 9:16 of Jerusalem as the holy mountain of God.
Daniel 9:16 “O Lord, according to all thy righteousness, I beseech thee, let thine anger and thy fury be turned away from thy CITY JERUSALEM, thy HOLY MOUNTAIN: because for our sins, and for the iniquities of our fathers, Jerusalem and thy people are become a reproach to all that are about us.”
Jeremiah 51:25 “Behold, I am against thee, O DESTROYING MOUNTAIN, saith the Lord, which destroyest all the earth: and I will stretch out mine hand upon thee, and roll thee down from the rocks, and will make thee a BURNT MOUNTAIN.
Jesus spoke to his disciples to have great faith that even “this mountain” upon which the city of Jerusalem and its governing powers shall be removed by their faith.
Mark 11:23” For verily I say unto you, that whosoever shall say unto this MOUNTAIN, ‘Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea,’ and shall not doubt in his heart, but shall believe that those things which he saith shall come to pass, he shall have whatsoever he saith.”
So when we come to the book of Revelation and its mention of the symbol of the heads are to be understood as “mountains” we should understand as did the ancient people which understood this to represent kingdoms and not just as some propose as hills of Rome.
THE ROCK THAT GROWS INTO A MOUNTAIN
In the book of Daniel it gives the picture of certain precious metals that are taken from the mountain and then spoke of a “rock” that then crushed these metals into pieces. So that this “rock” shall grow into a great mountain as represented as a great kingdom.
Daniel 2: 35”Then the iron, the clay, the bronze, the silver, and the gold, all together were broken in pieces, and became like the chaff of the summer threshing floors; and the wind carried them away, so that not a trace of them could be found. But the stone that struck the image became a GREAT MOUNTAIN and filled the whole earth.”
This imagery of the rock that grows into a great mountain is that of the faithful remnant of Israel that defeated their imposing enemies that as the result would grow into a great mountain, KINGDOM.
SEVEN HEADS ARE SEVEN KINGDOMS
Revelation 17: 9 “And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.”
The woman as described is a harlot of the kings of the earth and has fornicated with them. The symbol is the seven are mountains, KINGDOMS which are of these kings of the earth. It does NOT represent as some propose as the seven “hill” of Rome. The image of the Beast are the collection of past KINGDOMS given an description of the Lion kingdom, bear kingdom and leopard kingdom (Rev.13:2)” 2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.”
Since John give the key to understanding this image of heads of the Beast as “mountains” it is imperative that we interpret the seven heads as symbols of kingdoms.
In the seven other instances of the word ὄρος (oros) in Revelation, it is always rendered ‘mountain,’ some try to claim it should be rendered ‘hills when that doesn’t follow how it’s been translated.
Rev.6:14 “And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain G3735 and island were moved out of their places.”
Rev.6:15” And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; G3735
Rev.6:16” And said to the mountains G3735 and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:”
Rev.8:8” And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain G3735 burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood;”
Rev.16:20” And every island fled away, and the mountains G3735 were not found.”
Rev.17:9”And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, G3735 on which the woman sitteth.”
Rev.21:10” And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, G3735 and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,”
CONCLUSION
To claim it’s to represent the Seven Hills of Rome is forcing a literal reading and completely out of the normal translation within the book of Revelation and not understanding of the ancient knowledge “wisdom” that mountains represented kingdoms.
Roger Beck
Mountains in ancient times were symbols for city states, kingdoms for most all sat upon a high mountain which served as a great earth defense. There are many times in the bible that expresses this thought as in Daniel 9:16 of Jerusalem as the holy mountain of God.
Daniel 9:16 “O Lord, according to all thy righteousness, I beseech thee, let thine anger and thy fury be turned away from thy CITY JERUSALEM, thy HOLY MOUNTAIN: because for our sins, and for the iniquities of our fathers, Jerusalem and thy people are become a reproach to all that are about us.”
Jeremiah 51:25 “Behold, I am against thee, O DESTROYING MOUNTAIN, saith the Lord, which destroyest all the earth: and I will stretch out mine hand upon thee, and roll thee down from the rocks, and will make thee a BURNT MOUNTAIN.
Jesus spoke to his disciples to have great faith that even “this mountain” upon which the city of Jerusalem and its governing powers shall be removed by their faith.
Mark 11:23” For verily I say unto you, that whosoever shall say unto this MOUNTAIN, ‘Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea,’ and shall not doubt in his heart, but shall believe that those things which he saith shall come to pass, he shall have whatsoever he saith.”
So when we come to the book of Revelation and its mention of the symbol of the heads are to be understood as “mountains” we should understand as did the ancient people which understood this to represent kingdoms and not just as some propose as hills of Rome.
THE ROCK THAT GROWS INTO A MOUNTAIN
In the book of Daniel it gives the picture of certain precious metals that are taken from the mountain and then spoke of a “rock” that then crushed these metals into pieces. So that this “rock” shall grow into a great mountain as represented as a great kingdom.
Daniel 2: 35”Then the iron, the clay, the bronze, the silver, and the gold, all together were broken in pieces, and became like the chaff of the summer threshing floors; and the wind carried them away, so that not a trace of them could be found. But the stone that struck the image became a GREAT MOUNTAIN and filled the whole earth.”
This imagery of the rock that grows into a great mountain is that of the faithful remnant of Israel that defeated their imposing enemies that as the result would grow into a great mountain, KINGDOM.
SEVEN HEADS ARE SEVEN KINGDOMS
Revelation 17: 9 “And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.”
The woman as described is a harlot of the kings of the earth and has fornicated with them. The symbol is the seven are mountains, KINGDOMS which are of these kings of the earth. It does NOT represent as some propose as the seven “hill” of Rome. The image of the Beast are the collection of past KINGDOMS given an description of the Lion kingdom, bear kingdom and leopard kingdom (Rev.13:2)” 2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.”
Since John give the key to understanding this image of heads of the Beast as “mountains” it is imperative that we interpret the seven heads as symbols of kingdoms.
In the seven other instances of the word ὄρος (oros) in Revelation, it is always rendered ‘mountain,’ some try to claim it should be rendered ‘hills when that doesn’t follow how it’s been translated.
Rev.6:14 “And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain G3735 and island were moved out of their places.”
Rev.6:15” And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; G3735
Rev.6:16” And said to the mountains G3735 and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:”
Rev.8:8” And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain G3735 burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood;”
Rev.16:20” And every island fled away, and the mountains G3735 were not found.”
Rev.17:9”And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, G3735 on which the woman sitteth.”
Rev.21:10” And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, G3735 and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,”
CONCLUSION
To claim it’s to represent the Seven Hills of Rome is forcing a literal reading and completely out of the normal translation within the book of Revelation and not understanding of the ancient knowledge “wisdom” that mountains represented kingdoms.
Roger Beck